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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Alex Barnett blog : socialsoftware, socialmedia, identity</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/socialsoftware/socialmedia/identity/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: socialsoftware, socialmedia, identity</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007 (Build: 20416.853)</generator><item><title>Chris Anderson: Charlie Rose interview discussing FREE</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2008/05/03/charlie-rose-interview-with-chris-anderson-discussing-free.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 16:51:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:41427</guid><dc:creator>alexbarnett</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=41427</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2008/05/03/charlie-rose-interview-with-chris-anderson-discussing-free.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;P&gt;I spent some time this morning watching the Charlie Rose &lt;A href="http://www.longtail.com/the_long_tail/2008/03/me-on-charlie-r.html" mce_href="http://www.longtail.com/the_long_tail/2008/03/me-on-charlie-r.html"&gt;interview with Wired's editor, Chris Anderson&lt;/A&gt;, discussing &lt;A href="http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/16-03/ff_free" mce_href="http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/16-03/ff_free"&gt;FREE&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The interview covers the economics and ideas driving the Internet's current (and future) state: the &lt;A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy" mce_href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy"&gt;Gift Economy&lt;/A&gt;; the &lt;A href="http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_4/goldhaber/" mce_href="http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue2_4/goldhaber/"&gt;Attention Economy&lt;/A&gt;; and the &lt;A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whuffie" mce_href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whuffie"&gt;Reputation Economy&lt;/A&gt;. Rose leads the conversation into topics such as covering the &lt;A href="http://avc.blogs.com/a_vc/2006/03/the_freemium_bu.html" mce_href="http://avc.blogs.com/a_vc/2006/03/the_freemium_bu.html"&gt;Freemium business model&lt;/A&gt; and consumer perceptions about &lt;A href="http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1082473.1082627" mce_href="http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1082473.1082627"&gt;the value of privacy&lt;/A&gt; (or lack of thereof).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The interview also moves to the topic of the&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&amp;amp;ned=us&amp;amp;q=microsoft+yahoo+merger&amp;amp;btnG=Search+News" mce_href="http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&amp;amp;ned=us&amp;amp;q=microsoft+yahoo+merger&amp;amp;btnG=Search+News"&gt;Yahoo! and Microsoft merger&lt;/A&gt;. Rose asks: "&lt;EM&gt;Why is it that Yahoo! can't recruit the people at Google - through some extraordinary salary offers - that would let Yahoo! replicate what Google has&lt;/EM&gt;?"&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Anderson's answer (paraphrased): "&lt;EM&gt;There is a basic philosophical difference between Google and Yahoo! Google is a Machine company. Google believes that data, machines and the Algorithms will drive the company's growth. Yahoo! is a people company - it believes content created by people and the conections made between them with its drive growth&lt;/EM&gt;."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"&lt;EM&gt;And what about Microsoft?&lt;/EM&gt;", Rose asks. Anderson responds (again, paraphrasing) - &lt;EM&gt;"Microsoft is a pre-web software company that philosophically wants to be somewhere in between Google and Yahoo!"&lt;/EM&gt; An oversimplified analysis, surely (hey, it's a TV interview answer), but I think the&amp;nbsp;Anderson's conclusion&amp;nbsp;is pretty accurate at its heart.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EMBED id=VideoPlayback style="WIDTH: 400px; HEIGHT: 326px" src=http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-8119949202706402691:17000:1338000&amp;amp;hl=en type=application/x-shockwave-flash flashvars=""&gt; &lt;/EMBED&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=41427" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/abundance/default.aspx">abundance</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Attention/default.aspx">Attention</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/economics/default.aspx">economics</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Google/default.aspx">Google</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/identity/default.aspx">identity</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/memes/default.aspx">memes</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Microsoft/default.aspx">Microsoft</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/mydata/default.aspx">mydata</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/socialmedia/default.aspx">socialmedia</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/socialnetworking/default.aspx">socialnetworking</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/socialsoftware/default.aspx">socialsoftware</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/trends/default.aspx">trends</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Yahoo/default.aspx">Yahoo</category></item><item><title>Closed is Still the Old Closed.</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2007/08/17/closed-is-still-the-old-closed.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:45:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:40352</guid><dc:creator>alexbarnett</dc:creator><slash:comments>5</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=40352</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2007/08/17/closed-is-still-the-old-closed.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;P mce_keep="true"&gt;Kim Cameron, Microsoft's Chief Architect and the man behind Windows Cardspace (was infoCard), has &lt;A href="http://www.identityblog.com/?p=852" mce_href="http://www.identityblog.com/?p=852"&gt;shared his perspective&lt;/A&gt; the question of whether or not OpenID&amp;nbsp;would make&amp;nbsp;customers' lives better on social networks. There appears to be a&amp;nbsp;general agreement that allowing a Single Sign On (SSO) service across properties (think "social networks", email services, and anything else that requires authentication / authorization) is good for the customer. There's no question that from customer's (or prospective customer's) point of view that idea of not having to create multiple accounts, usernames, passwords, etc&amp;nbsp;has to be an&amp;nbsp;appealing prospect. There doesn't seem to be much controversy here.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The controversial questions are: would the net effect be positive or negative &lt;EM&gt;for the online property owner&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;if&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;a) they supported SSO and,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;b) let competing services leverage "their data" - data generated by customers using while using their service.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/08/13/AProposalForSocialNetworkInteroperabilityViaOpenID.aspx" mce_href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/08/13/AProposalForSocialNetworkInteroperabilityViaOpenID.aspx"&gt;The old way of thinking&lt;/A&gt; is the "walled garden" way of thinking. The logic goes something like this: &lt;EM&gt;Why would FaceBook, MySpace, x-socialnetwork&amp;nbsp;or x-service make it easy for&amp;nbsp;other&amp;nbsp;properties or services&amp;nbsp;to extract user profile information (i.e. "my data") from their service? Because openness is great? Yeah…right.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Kim's answer to these two&amp;nbsp;questions&amp;nbsp;are the right answers in my opinion. His view is that the net effect would be positive.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'll quote myself from&amp;nbsp;my &lt;A href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2006/01/11/511690.aspx" mce_href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2006/01/11/511690.aspx"&gt;20 Thoughts on Attention&lt;/A&gt; post as to some of the reasons why I agree with Kim's point of view:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;People care about the portability and security of their data. 
&lt;LI&gt;Software and services that allow customers to take their&amp;nbsp;data with them will do better than those that don't. 
&lt;LI&gt;Letting customers share and take their data with them will be a competitive feature of successful online services. 
&lt;LI&gt;New entrants into markets are more likely to allow customers to take their data with them than the existing market leaders. 
&lt;LI&gt;Market leaders want to lock-in their customers by locking in their data. 
&lt;LI&gt;Customers won't want their data locked-in. 
&lt;LI&gt;Markets leaders will have to follow the trend of letting their customers take their data with them in order to grow their customer base. 
&lt;LI&gt;Multiple online&amp;nbsp;identities is the norm, not the exception. Attention data reading will need to account for multiple identities and contexts.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;P&gt;These are assertions, and I could spend ages providing data and examples as to why I believe in these, but the bottom line is this: the whole revolution we're witnessing&amp;nbsp;where "consumer" properties are investing heavily&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;the provision API services that allow "their"&amp;nbsp;customer's data to be retrieved and leveraged&amp;nbsp;by potentially competing properties&amp;nbsp;&lt;EM&gt;is driven&lt;/EM&gt; by the acceptance of these assertions.&amp;nbsp;Contrary&amp;nbsp;to what Seth might think&amp;nbsp;(&lt;A class="" href="http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/31/closed-is-the-new-open/" mce_href="http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/31/closed-is-the-new-open/"&gt;"Closed is the New Open"),&lt;/A&gt; Closed is NOT the new Open, Closed is &lt;EM&gt;Still &lt;/EM&gt;the Old Closed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Companies providing these APIs "get" the future and they are benefiting in the here and now. They realize it is a &lt;EM&gt;two-way street&lt;/EM&gt; and that the barriers to new&amp;nbsp;customer acquisition will be lowered if &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;a) they interoperate&amp;nbsp;with multiple ID systems (via something like OpenID)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;b) allow customers to immediately leverage their existing data generated and residing on external properties / services&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;c) the data created and residing within&amp;nbsp;their own service / property can be leverage elsewhere.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;On point c), &lt;A href="http://www.scripting.com/stories/2007/08/14/facebookIsOpeningUp.html" mce_href="http://www.scripting.com/stories/2007/08/14/facebookIsOpeningUp.html"&gt;Facebook's latest "opening up"&lt;/A&gt; where&amp;nbsp;the social network&amp;nbsp;is allowing their &lt;STRIKE&gt;users&lt;/STRIKE&gt; customers to &lt;A class="" href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/facebook-opens-up-their-data-feeds/" mce_href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/facebook-opens-up-their-data-feeds/"&gt;extract their Facebook updates&lt;/A&gt; is &lt;A class="" href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Howell/?p=169" mce_href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Howell/?p=169"&gt;yet&lt;/A&gt; &lt;A class="" href="http://www.insidefacebook.com/2007/08/14/facebook-is-not-that-open/" mce_href="http://www.insidefacebook.com/2007/08/14/facebook-is-not-that-open/"&gt;another&lt;/A&gt; &lt;A class="" href="http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/08/incremental-steps-towards-openness" mce_href="http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/08/incremental-steps-towards-openness"&gt;incremental step&lt;/A&gt; in this 2-way direction.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=40352" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/APIs/default.aspx">APIs</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Attention/default.aspx">Attention</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Facebook/default.aspx">Facebook</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/identity/default.aspx">identity</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/mydata/default.aspx">mydata</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/socialmedia/default.aspx">socialmedia</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/socialsoftware/default.aspx">socialsoftware</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Web+2.0/default.aspx">Web 2.0</category></item></channel></rss>