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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Alex Barnett blog : privacy, mydata, Google</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/privacy/mydata/Google/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: privacy, mydata, Google</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007 (Build: 20416.853)</generator><item><title>MSN Search Champs Podcast - Privacy conversation</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/01/26/MSN-Search-Champs-Podcast-_2D00_-Privacy-conversation.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:43:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:256</guid><dc:creator>admin</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=256</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/01/26/MSN-Search-Champs-Podcast-_2D00_-Privacy-conversation.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;I&amp;nbsp;attended the&amp;nbsp;MSN Search Champs today....and what a day.&amp;nbsp; Given &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/msnsearch/archive/2006/01/20/515606.aspx"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;the recent news&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; and concerns around the data MSN Search, Yahoo and AOL provided to the government, there was a session set up where the 57 bloggers / online experts at MSN Search Champ were invited to discuss the topic with senior MSN management (Senior VP &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/yusuf/default.mspx"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Yusuf Mehdi&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; and VP &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/payne/default.mspx"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Chris Payne&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;).&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;As Robert Scoble &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2006/01/25/search-champs-grilling-msn-execs/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;wrote&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, MSN VP Chris Payne took the opportunity to confirm that no IP address or PII (Personally Identifiable Information) was provided.&amp;nbsp; It became apparent to me at least, that many (maybe the majority) of the MSN Search Champs didn&amp;#39;t realize this prior to today&amp;#39;s event. I think this misundertanding is one of the reasons there was such a deal and story &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/25/national/25privacy.html&amp;amp;OQ=_rQ3D1Q26hpQ26exQ3D1138165200Q26enQ3D53ada0c511b528d5Q26eiQ3D5094Q26partnerQ3Dhomepage&amp;amp;OP=6e3de688Q2FQ3DQ24mQ60Q3DobQ7BqlbbQ22Q2BQ3DQ2BTTAQ3DTQ2AQ3DQ2BRQ3D!Q5BQ22Db!Q5BzQ3DQ2BRulDxQ5BQ7BhMvQ22@z"&gt;made front page news&lt;/a&gt; in the media and in the blogosphere.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;And so conversation started.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;And it carried on into the night, even after the event was over - &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://alexbarnett.audioblog.com/deluge/186ea989-d5b8-cd82-4b97-a1821359cd7c.mp3"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;here&amp;#39;s a podcast&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (mp3, 42 mins, 10mb) recorded tonight to discuss what we heard and learnt today. We had five &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.web20workgroup.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Web 2.0 Workgroup&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; members on the podcast: &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://webreakstuff.43people.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Fred Oliveira&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;(&lt;a href="http://webreakstuff.com/blog/2006/01/subpoena-no-personal-data-released/"&gt;post&lt;/a&gt;), &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://web2.wsj2.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Dion Hinchcliffe&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;(&lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://web2.wsj2.com/trust_and_privacy_in_web_20_microsoft_search_and_the_doj.htm"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;post&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;), &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Joshua Porter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;(&lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/microsoft-didnt-give-user-data-to-doj-in-privacy-case-podcast/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;post&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;), and &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://alexbarnett.net/blog"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;myself&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;. We also had &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://chris.pirillo.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Chris Pirillo&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;,&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt; &lt;a href="http://vanderwal.net/random/entrysel.php?blog=1789"&gt;Thomas Vander Wal&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.infocloudsolutions.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Infocloud&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;the organizer of MSN&amp;#39;s Search Champs, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://research.microsoft.com/workshops/SCS2005/speakers/Forrest.aspx"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Brady Forrest. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/25/new-livecom-services-shown-at-searchchamps/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Michael Arrington&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/microsoft_searc.php"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Richard MacManus&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; and &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.liveside.net/comments.php?shownews=37"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Live Side&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; have some info on their first day at MSN Search Champs.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://alexbarnett.audioblog.com/deluge/186ea989-d5b8-cd82-4b97-a1821359cd7c.mp3"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;download the podcast&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (mp3, 42 mins, 10mb)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;-&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Update: Thursday 26 2006: One point of clarification since the podcast was provided&amp;nbsp;to me by&amp;nbsp;Ramez Naam, director of program management at MSN Search:&amp;nbsp;t&lt;font size="2"&gt;he DOJ did not ask&amp;nbsp;MSN for PII specifically. They asked for&amp;nbsp;MSN Search logs. MSN told them that&amp;nbsp;they would not give them PII and they were fine with that. &lt;p&gt;The major push-pull between MSN / DOJ was in the amount of data - they asked&amp;nbsp;MSN for a much larger volume of data, and&amp;nbsp;it was&amp;nbsp;scoped down to a relatively small period.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The major push-pull between MSN / DOJ was in the amount of data - they asked&amp;nbsp;MSN for a much larger volume of data, and&amp;nbsp;it was&amp;nbsp;scoped down to a relatively small period.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The major push-pull between MSN / DOJ was in the amount of data - they asked&amp;nbsp;MSN for a much larger volume of data, and&amp;nbsp;it was&amp;nbsp;scoped down to a relatively small period.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The major push-pull between MSN / DOJ was in the amount of data - they asked&amp;nbsp;MSN for a much larger volume of data, and&amp;nbsp;it was&amp;nbsp;scoped down to a relatively small period.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Tags:&amp;nbsp; &lt;span id="ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_lblResults"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Microsoft" rel="tag"&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/MSN" rel="tag"&gt;MSN&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Google" rel="tag"&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Yahoo" rel="tag"&gt;Yahoo&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/privacy" rel="tag"&gt;privacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=256" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Google/default.aspx">Google</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Microsoft/default.aspx">Microsoft</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/mydata/default.aspx">mydata</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/podcast/default.aspx">podcast</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/privacy/default.aspx">privacy</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Yahoo/default.aspx">Yahoo</category></item></channel></rss>