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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Alex Barnett blog : podcast, RSS, mydata, Attention</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/podcast/RSS/mydata/Attention/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: podcast, RSS, mydata, Attention</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007 (Build: 20416.853)</generator><item><title>Attention Podcast with Joshua Porter</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2005/11/26/Attention-Podcast-with-Joshua-Porter.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:05:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:261</guid><dc:creator>admin</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=261</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2005/11/26/Attention-Podcast-with-Joshua-Porter.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;This is a two part podcast with &lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/about"&gt;Joshua Porter&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.extremepodcasting.com/podcasts/joshua_porter_alex_barnett_attention_part1.mp3"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Part 1: 43mb, 45min&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.extremepodcasting.com/podcasts/joshua_porter_alex_barnett_attention_part2.mp3"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Part 2: .46mb, 48min&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Joshua is a little faint to hear at first, gets a bit better later though, sorry about this.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Part 1 Notes and Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Turkey, &lt;a href="http://black-friday-(shopping).borgfind.com/"&gt;Black Fridays&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_Day"&gt;Boxing Days&lt;/a&gt; (intro)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.wynia.org/experiments/opmlsampler/"&gt;J Wynia&amp;#39;s&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/web2explorer/index.php?p=67"&gt;OPML Sampling&lt;/a&gt;, attention engine (01:35)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/moving-from-average-value-to-personal-value-in-searchnews/http:/www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/12/memeorandum-is-changing-the-web/"&gt;Memeorandum, the echo chamber&lt;/a&gt; (04:45)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://weblog.burningbird.net/2005/10/28/the-testosterone-meme/"&gt;Shelly is a she&lt;/a&gt; (!) (05:40)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://talk.talis.com/archives/2005/11/ed_batista_on_a.html"&gt;Ed Batista on Attention Trust&lt;/a&gt; (07:15)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Attention Trust and Root vault (09:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Why do we need a third party, why do we need attention brokers? (11:04)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.scripting.com/2005/11/24.html#When:1:34:09PM"&gt;Dave Winer&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://dannyayers.com/archives/2005/11/24/tools/"&gt;Danny Ayres&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.dltq.org/?p=747#comment-1093"&gt;Raymond Kristiansen,&lt;/a&gt; Attention.xml, &lt;a href="http://eirepreneur.blogs.com/eirepreneur/2005/11/why_opml_is_win.html"&gt;OPML&lt;/a&gt;, Attention RDF, microformats (14:40)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://attentiontech.podshow.com/?p=20"&gt;Nick Bradbury, Steve Gillmor, AttentionTech podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;All those &lt;a href="http://www.scottgatz.com/blog/2005/10/08/reaction-to-our-research/"&gt;RSS users and they don&amp;#39;t know it&lt;/a&gt; (18:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/11/25/497087.aspx"&gt;OPML, attention data sharing&lt;/a&gt; (21:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;What did you learn about &lt;a href="http://www.thelongtail.com/the_long_tail/2005/11/standing_out_in.html"&gt;Chris now you have his some of his attention data&lt;/a&gt;? (23:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Self-reported attention (27:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/11/24/496636.aspx"&gt;OPML wishlist&lt;/a&gt;: it&amp;#39;s &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; wishlist (30:20)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Mortgage brokers is making money from &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; attention - attention brokers (32:55)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Why I don&amp;#39;t like &lt;a href="http://www.attentiontrust.org/services"&gt;Attention recorder&lt;/a&gt; (37:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;My wife is an attention data nightmare (40:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;empowering customers (41:30)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Attention, Buying a Car, and Control - &lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/attention-buying-a-car-and-control/"&gt;why am i not in control&lt;/a&gt; - ? (43:20)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;End of part 1 (45:10)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Part 2 Notes and Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;We&amp;#39;ve already got some feedback to the first half/part of the podcast. In particular I wanted to highlight &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://dannyayers.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Danny Ayres&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; who took the time to &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/11/26/497133.aspx#497197"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;post this comment&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;. Thanks Danny, we should keep talking.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;As I listened to the recordings to make the notes below, I came realise two things: Firstly, how much work is still ahead of us to work it out in this attention management space (but it will be fun - and of course, it&amp;#39;ll never end....). Second, it appears that a non-trivial convergence is occurring, one that &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;James Governor&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; recognises and &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/11/24/496769.aspx#496949"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;describes as a&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; &lt;em&gt;&amp;quot;quadrangulation of SSE, attention, RSS and OPML that creates the opportunity, no?&amp;quot;&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;In the meantime, &lt;a href="http://www.scripting.com/2005/11/26.html#When:5:19:11PM"&gt;Dave has pointed&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/11/26/my-content-my-readers-my-numbers-damnit/"&gt;Jeff Jarvis&amp;#39; demand to Yahoo!&lt;/a&gt; that they hand over his attention data (RSS)!&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Back to the podcast: again, Joshua&amp;#39;s voice&amp;nbsp;is relatively faint (compared to mine)&amp;nbsp;but it is audible - sorry about this.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Notes and links below.&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Anonymous e-commerce (intro)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.identity20.com/media/WEB2_2005/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Identity 2.0&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, (02:10)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/microsoft-trust-attention/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Why should I trust Microsoft with my attention metadata?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (04:10)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.identityblog.com/2005/11/05.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Kim Cameron, InfoCard&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, and &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.identityblog.com/2005/10/23.html#a359"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Identity Metasystem&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (07:56)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Anonymous personalization (10:45)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;What social model fits here? (14:40)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://mp.blogs.com/mp/2005/11/s_28.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;My OPML as my attention data&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (18:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.harrahs.com/total_rewards/overview/overview.jsp"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Have you been to a casino lately?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (20:05)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Solove&amp;#39;s &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0814798462/102-6864361-8721707"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;The Digital Person&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, Orwellian futures, little brothers, and &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0805210407/102-6864361-8721707?v=glance&amp;amp;n=283155&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;v=glance"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Kafka&amp;#39;s The Trial&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (24:30)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.minorityreport.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Minority Report&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.econometa.com/archives/19"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;The iris as a cookie&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (28:08)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Will we have OPML spiders here soon? (29:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://nick.typepad.com/blog/2005/11/an_attention_na.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Feed ranking in readers&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, OPML as expression of your attention, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.feedblog.org/2005/11/tailrankattenti.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Attention engines&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (30:32)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.opml.org/thisislisa/2005/11/26#omgItWorkedItWorkedIGotItToWork"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Users will drive the future of OPML&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (31:30)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Google Base, user-defined schemas, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/web2con-the-value-of-structured-blogging/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;structured blogging&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (33:25)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;user hacks, emergent standards, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/10/07/478256.aspx"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;emergent tags&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (36:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.adaptivepath.com/publications/essays/archives/000385.php"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Ajax&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.aflax.org/wordpress/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Aflax&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/2005/05/13.html#a1232"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Flash-based data visualization&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (40:45)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/podcast-of-web-20-talk/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Hacking is really the only way to innovate&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;,&amp;nbsp; 45:00&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;End (47:50)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Tags: &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attention"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;A&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attention" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;ttention&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/OPML" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;OPML&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/RSS" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;RSS&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attentiontrust" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;attentiontrust&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attention.xml" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;attention.xml&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="+0"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/podcast"&gt;podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=261" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Attention/default.aspx">Attention</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/microformats/default.aspx">microformats</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/mydata/default.aspx">mydata</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/OPML/default.aspx">OPML</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/podcast/default.aspx">podcast</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/privacy/default.aspx">privacy</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/RSS/default.aspx">RSS</category></item></channel></rss>