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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Alex Barnett blog : OPML</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/OPML/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: OPML</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007 (Build: 20416.853)</generator><item><title>Grazr gets financing and more.</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2007/03/06/Grazr-gets-financing-and-more_2E00_.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 03:48:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:30584</guid><dc:creator>alexbarnett</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=30584</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2007/03/06/Grazr-gets-financing-and-more_2E00_.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Adam Green, co-founder and CEO of &lt;a href="http://grazr.com/"&gt;Grazr Corp&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;who mailed me tonight&amp;nbsp;and let me know Grazr has completed a Series A financing round of $1.5M. &lt;a href="http://www.bricklin.com/"&gt;Dan Bricklin&lt;/a&gt; has agreed to join&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;Board of Directors too, (the co-creator of &lt;a href="http://www.bricklin.com/visicalc.htm"&gt;VisiCalc&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and much more recently author of &lt;a href="http://www.softwaregarden.com/products/wikicalc/index.html"&gt;WikiCalc&lt;/a&gt;). Nice!&amp;nbsp;Adam has more&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://feedonomics.grazr.com/index.php/archives/90"&gt;details here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://grazr.com"&gt;Grazr&lt;/a&gt; is a publishing tool for feeds. It lets you display RSS, RDF, Atom, and OPML files as a widget on any&amp;nbsp;webpage. All&amp;nbsp;Javascript, so no software download or installation is necessary for someone to view it in a browser.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve been tracking Grazr for a &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2006/08/26/725653.aspx"&gt;while now&lt;/a&gt;. A year ago, &lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/"&gt;Joshua Porter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/"&gt;John Tropea&lt;/a&gt; and I spent some time with Adam on the topic of OPML and its future and recorded the &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2006/03/10/549314.aspx"&gt;conversation as a podcast&lt;/a&gt;. Would be fun to catch up with Adam again and see where OPML and associated tech has come in the last 12 months.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Congratulations to both &lt;a href="http://blog.grazr.com/"&gt;Mike Kowalchik&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(original author of Grazr &amp;amp; CTO) and Adam!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=30584" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Ajax/default.aspx">Ajax</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/OPML/default.aspx">OPML</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/RSS/default.aspx">RSS</category></item><item><title>Getting Acquainted with OPML</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/10/23/Getting-Acquainted-with-OPML.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 03:25:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:1091</guid><dc:creator>alexbarnett</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=1091</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/10/23/Getting-Acquainted-with-OPML.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.opml.org/amyloo/"&gt;Amy Bellinger&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.oreillynet.com"&gt;O&amp;#39;Reilly Media&lt;/a&gt; have released&amp;nbsp;a new &amp;#39;Short Cuts&amp;#39;&amp;nbsp;-&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opml/index.html"&gt;Getting Acquainted with OPML&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As its title suggests,&amp;nbsp;it is a great starter if you want get going with &lt;a href="http://www.opml.org/"&gt;OPML&lt;/a&gt;...Congrats Amy!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opml/index.html"&gt;&lt;img alt="Getting Acquainted with OPML" height="233" src="http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/covers/0596528221_cat.gif" width="180" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;quot;You&amp;#39;ve put off figuring out what Outline Processor Markup Language (OPML) is all about and what it can do, right?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;We&amp;#39;ll bring you into the picture quickly with 14 wide-ranging uses for the OPML format including:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;Reading lists and RSS subscription lists &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;Blogging &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;A wholly new sort of intranet &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;Process documentation &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;Instant outlining and collaboration &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;Distributed directories &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Included in this Short Cut are step-by-step how-to examples with illustrations to get you started using and remixing OPML right now.&amp;quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;...Disclaimer: I reviewed the PDF book a couple of times before&amp;nbsp;going&amp;nbsp;live and so I got a free copy :-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Quick snark:&amp;nbsp;I know of &lt;a href="http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/archives/002405.html"&gt;at least one company&lt;/a&gt; that&amp;nbsp;could (and &lt;a href="http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/2006/10/19/IBM-Blogroll"&gt;should&lt;/a&gt;) shell out $7.99 for a copy :-P&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=1091" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/OPML/default.aspx">OPML</category></item><item><title>Live Search OPML Generator</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/10/11/Live-Search-OPML-Generator.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 05:06:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:519</guid><dc:creator>alexbarnett</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=519</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/10/11/Live-Search-OPML-Generator.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;Andy Edmonds &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/andyed/archive/2006/10/12/live-search-opml-generator-bootstrap-your-blogosphere-engagement.aspx"&gt;has&amp;nbsp;posted&lt;/a&gt; about the all new&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://surfmind.com/lab/msn/opml/"&gt;Live Search OPML Generator&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;strong&gt;What does it do?&lt;/strong&gt;: This app runs your query against the Live Search API with the feed: &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://search.msn.com/docs/help.aspx?t=SEARCH_REF_AdvSrchOperators.htm"&gt;&lt;em&gt;syntax&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;, returning RSS feeds, and assembles an OPML file. You&amp;#39;ll get the chance to choose from the results before generating the subscription list.&amp;quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;As an example, here&amp;#39;s the search results on the query &lt;a href="http://surfmind.com/lab/msn/opml/?q=ADO.NET&amp;amp;q=+language%3Aen+&amp;amp;q=+-intitle%3Acomments+-inurl%3Acomment&amp;amp;market=en%2Cus"&gt;&amp;quot;ADO.NET&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;. Some great feeds come back: The &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/adonet/rss.xml"&gt;ADO.NET team&amp;nbsp;blog feed&lt;/a&gt;, David Hayden&amp;#39;s blog posts &lt;a href="http://davidhayden.com/blog/dave/category/26.aspx/rss"&gt;as a feed with category &amp;#39;ADO.NET&amp;#39;&lt;/a&gt;, Sahil Malik&amp;#39;s &lt;a href="http://sahilmalik.wordpress.com/tag/articles/rss2"&gt;feed&lt;/a&gt; that includes a number of ADO.NET posts, the ADO.NET Technology Preview MSDN Forum &lt;a href="http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/rss.aspx?ForumID=533&amp;amp;Mode=0&amp;amp;SiteID=1"&gt;feed&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and plenty more.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What&amp;#39;s great is that&amp;nbsp;once you&amp;#39;ve decided which feeds you want to subscribe to, you select those and an OPML file is generated for you to wack into your feedreader. Alternatively, you could select all, then add the OPML file to your reader and then delete those that you don&amp;#39;t want to keep. Or just add them as feeds to read within the &lt;a href="http://www.live.com"&gt;Live.com reader&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Another nice thing&amp;nbsp;Andy has pointed out&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;the potential to create&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/16/my-thoughts-on-reading-lists/"&gt;Reading Lists&lt;/a&gt; from a search query.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=519" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/ADO.NET/default.aspx">ADO.NET</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Atom/default.aspx">Atom</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/OPML/default.aspx">OPML</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/RSS/default.aspx">RSS</category></item><item><title>A little less conversation a little more action please</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/10/03/A-little-less-conversation-a-little-more-action-please.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:42:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:439</guid><dc:creator>alexbarnett</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=439</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/10/03/A-little-less-conversation-a-little-more-action-please.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;On &lt;a href="http://www.apml.org/"&gt;APML&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;I tend to agree with what&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.stoweboyd.com/message/2006/10/apml_attention_.html"&gt;Stowe has said&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;on the topic and John Tropea has &lt;a href="http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/10/03/apml/"&gt;some good thoughts too&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To &lt;a href="http://www.cleverclogs.org/2006/10/apml_standard_f.html"&gt;Marjolein&lt;/a&gt; - frankly, I&amp;#39;m getting tired of the attention&amp;nbsp;conversation. Not because&amp;nbsp;I believe it is not&amp;nbsp;worthy idea, but because there&amp;#39;s been so much talk in this area and not enough action.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Given my recent trip to Vegas, I&amp;#39;ll quote the King to summarize my advice to the workgroup:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;quot;A little less conversation a little more action please&amp;quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=439" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Attention/default.aspx">Attention</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/mydata/default.aspx">mydata</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/OPML/default.aspx">OPML</category></item><item><title>A social Microsoft.com</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/09/21/A-social-Microsoft.com.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:18:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:224</guid><dc:creator>admin</dc:creator><slash:comments>4</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=224</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/09/21/A-social-Microsoft.com.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;There is a team at Microsoft that over the years has&amp;nbsp;delivered some&amp;nbsp;amazing things for the community of Microsoft customers:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/default.aspx"&gt;blogs&amp;nbsp;on&amp;nbsp;MSDN&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://blogs.technet.com/default.aspx"&gt;TechNet&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://msdnwiki.microsoft.com/en-us/mtpswiki/default.aspx"&gt;MSDN Wikis&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.codeplex.com/"&gt;Codeplex&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/rss/default.aspx"&gt;Microsoft.com RSS Directory&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://asp.net/"&gt;ASP.NET&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://www.gotdotnet.com/"&gt;GotDotNet&lt;/a&gt; to name a few. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;More recently people like &lt;a href="http://davemscom.spaces.msn.com/"&gt;Dave Morehouse&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/korbyp"&gt;Korby Parnell&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://theworkingnetwork.com/blogs/blog/Default.aspx"&gt;Bob Rebholz&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://janac.spaces.live.com/"&gt;Jana Carter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/dseven/"&gt;Doug Seven&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/sandyk"&gt;Sandy Khaund&lt;/a&gt; have been thinking a great deal around some of the trends emerging around social software, and what these approaches can bring to both Microsoft&amp;#39;s online presence and its customers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;One of the fun things about this phase of their design process is how they are &amp;#39;thinking out loud&amp;#39; with some of their plans and actively looking for feedback as they go. Here are a few links as tasters:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dave&amp;#39;s &lt;a href="http://davemscom.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!217A4DFE679DE9D4!253.entry"&gt;Spinning the Wheels post&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;explores how tags and tagging, OPML collections&amp;nbsp;and collaborative filtering can be leveraged&amp;nbsp;across &lt;a href="http://microsoft.com"&gt;Microsoft.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Korby touches on serendipity&amp;nbsp;as&amp;nbsp;a social phenomenon, &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/korbyp/archive/2006/07/17/669057.aspx"&gt;manifested through software&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sandy &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/sandyk/archive/2006/09/20/763082.aspx"&gt;considers the potential&lt;/a&gt; inherent in the networking of various community &amp;#39;silos&amp;#39; that exist across the Microsoft.com, its&amp;nbsp;affiliated sites and those run by customers to create a whole much more&amp;nbsp;valuable whole&amp;nbsp;than the sum of its parts.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you are into &amp;#39;social aoftware&amp;#39;, keep an eye on this team...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=224" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Microsoft/default.aspx">Microsoft</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/OPML/default.aspx">OPML</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/socialsoftware/default.aspx">socialsoftware</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Tagging/default.aspx">Tagging</category></item><item><title>Moving my blog</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/09/02/Moving-my-blog.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 15:38:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:60</guid><dc:creator>Alex Barnett blog</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=60</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/09/02/Moving-my-blog.aspx#comments</comments><description>OK, so I moved my new Alex Barnett blog to here for a number of reasons, explained here at my, er, new blog ....(&lt;a href="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/09/02/Moving-my-blog.aspx"&gt;read more&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=60" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Attention/default.aspx">Attention</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Bubble+2.0/default.aspx">Bubble 2.0</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/microformats/default.aspx">microformats</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Microsoft/default.aspx">Microsoft</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Mix06/default.aspx">Mix06</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/MSN+API/default.aspx">MSN API</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/OPML/default.aspx">OPML</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/RSS/default.aspx">RSS</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Tagging/default.aspx">Tagging</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Tech/default.aspx">Tech</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Web/default.aspx">Web</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Web+2.0/default.aspx">Web 2.0</category></item><item><title>RSS feeds, OPMLs and Grazr</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/08/26/RSS-feeds_2C00_-OPMLs-and-Grazr.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:37:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:30</guid><dc:creator>Alex Barnett blog</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=30</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/08/26/RSS-feeds_2C00_-OPMLs-and-Grazr.aspx#comments</comments><description>Kevin Briody of the Windows Live team has published the RSS feeds he subscribes to as OPML files for your feedreader. Some good feeds worth checking out there, including a bunch of Windows Live individual employee and team blogs. Kevin, one way of displaying...(&lt;a href="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/08/26/RSS-feeds_2C00_-OPMLs-and-Grazr.aspx"&gt;read more&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=30" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Microsoft/default.aspx">Microsoft</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/OPML/default.aspx">OPML</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/RSS/default.aspx">RSS</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Tech/default.aspx">Tech</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Web/default.aspx">Web</category></item><item><title>OPML Podcast</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/03/10/OPML-Podcast.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:30:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:253</guid><dc:creator>admin</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=253</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/03/10/OPML-Podcast.aspx#comments</comments><description>Here&amp;#39;s an OPMLish podcast for you, recorded tonight with &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn"&gt;me&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/"&gt;Joshua Porter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://darwinianweb.com/bio.html"&gt;Adam Green&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/"&gt;John Tropea&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s all about the &lt;a href="http://www.opml.org/spec2"&gt;draft OPML 2.0 spec&lt;/a&gt; and a few other things thrown in such as structured blogging, OPML tools, namespaces and microformats.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We had Adam along today as he&amp;#39;s been experimenting with OPML in recent months at his &lt;a href="http://darwinianweb.com/"&gt;Darwinian Web&lt;/a&gt; blog. John Tropea also joined us...John runs the &lt;a href="http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/"&gt;Library clips&lt;/a&gt; blog where he has been documenting, extensively, the various OPML experiments and tools that have emerged over the last year. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As usual, show notes below. Enjoy!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The &lt;a href="http://alexbarnett.audioblog.com/deluge/7f543a12-08ef-7479-c072-850be76ccf90.mp3"&gt;podcast (.mp3,&amp;nbsp;58 min, 13mb)&amp;nbsp;can be downloaded&amp;nbsp;here&lt;/a&gt;, show notes below.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;OPML 2.0 Podcast - &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn"&gt;Alex Barnett&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/"&gt;Joshua Porter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://darwinianweb.com/bio.html"&gt;Adam Green&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/"&gt;John Tropea&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Intros &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;On the &lt;a href="http://scripting.wordpress.com/2006/03/01/opml-20/"&gt;Dave Winer&amp;#39;s announcement&lt;/a&gt; of the &lt;a href="http://www.opml.org/spec2"&gt;OPML 2.0 Draft&lt;/a&gt; - Good? bad? ugly? &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Data types within OPML (08:30) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://darwinianweb.com/archive/2006/291.html"&gt;Namespaces in OPML&lt;/a&gt; (11:30) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://kinrowan.net/blog/wp/archives/2005/12/02/attention-in-opml-nick-bradbury-on-attentiontech"&gt;Attention&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://nick.typepad.com/blog/2005/11/an_attention_na_1.html"&gt;Attention.xml, namespaces and OPML&lt;/a&gt; (13:30) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://essaysfromexodus.scripting.com/backissues/2002/03/30"&gt;David on Adam&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://darwinianweb.com/tag/opml.html"&gt;Adam on OPML&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://darwinianweb.com/archive/2006/287.html"&gt;Annotated Reading Lists&lt;/a&gt; (19:45) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Structured data within OPML, , &lt;a href="http://www.grazr.com/"&gt;Grazr&lt;/a&gt;, and Microsoft with OPML (24:15) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;OPML Tools: &lt;a href="http://www.bitty.com/"&gt;Bitty Browser&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://blog.grazr.com/index.php/2006/03/08/grazr-mini/"&gt;Grazr mini&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.yabfog.com/wp/optimal/"&gt;Optimal OPML Browser&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/03/10/grazr-reading-list-reader/"&gt;OPod and OPML Renderer&lt;/a&gt; (30:00) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2006/03/09/548222.aspx"&gt;My Bio as an Outline&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2006/02/25/539181.aspx"&gt;The Software I Use&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/archives/001313.html"&gt;Declarative Living&lt;/a&gt; (34:30) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;OPML, &lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/structured-blogging-who-is-benefitting-and-how/"&gt;Structured Blogging&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://structuredblogging.org/formats.php"&gt;Microformats&lt;/a&gt; and Namespaces &lt;a href="http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2005/04/round_2_with_ar"&gt;aren&amp;#39;t mutually exclusive&lt;/a&gt; (36:45) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What are biggest problems are technologies solving? (42:45) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/about-michael-arrington/"&gt;Michael Arrington&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#39;s &lt;a href="http://www.edgeio.com/"&gt;Edgeio&lt;/a&gt;, structured blogging, my data and distributed data (45:00) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://opmlcamp.com/"&gt;OPML Camp&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://opmlcamp.com/?p=10"&gt;who&amp;#39;s coming&lt;/a&gt; (54:30)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;-&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Tags: &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/OPML" rel="tag"&gt;OPML&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/RSS" rel="tag"&gt;RSS&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attention.xml" rel="tag"&gt;attention.xml&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/microformats" rel="tag"&gt;microformats&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attention" rel="tag"&gt;Attention&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/structured+blogging" rel="tag"&gt;structured blogging&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/technology" rel="tag"&gt;technology&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Web" rel="tag"&gt;web&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/podcast"&gt;podcast&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=253" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Attention/default.aspx">Attention</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/microformats/default.aspx">microformats</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/OPML/default.aspx">OPML</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/podcast/default.aspx">podcast</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/RSS/default.aspx">RSS</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/structuredblogging/default.aspx">structuredblogging</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Web/default.aspx">Web</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Web+2.0/default.aspx">Web 2.0</category></item><item><title>Reading Lists and OPML Podcast</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/02/12/Reading-Lists-and-OPML-Podcast.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 19:33:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:254</guid><dc:creator>admin</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=254</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2006/02/12/Reading-Lists-and-OPML-Podcast.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;div class="postcontent"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Last year Dave Winer started to push the idea of &lt;a href="http://www.reallysimplesyndication.com/2005/10/13"&gt;Reading Lists for RSS&lt;/a&gt;. More recently, the idea of&amp;nbsp;Dynamic Reading Lists and&amp;nbsp;Feed Grazing (or Grazing Lists / Glists) has been kicking around.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Its&amp;nbsp;likely that Reading Lists support will become a common feature of Feed Readers / Aggregators.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think this space is &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2006/01/16/513361.aspx"&gt;getting interesting&lt;/a&gt;, so does &lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/dynamic-reading-lists/"&gt;Joshua Porter&lt;/a&gt;. So we thought we&amp;#39;d invite two people who&amp;#39;ve been giving plenty of thought to this area, Danny Ayers (I can spell his surname correctly these days) and Adam Green to join us for a podcast on the topic (&lt;a href="http://alexbarnett.audioblog.com/deluge/e88ce6a2-9875-5013-dd4a-c387f9a68f36.mp3"&gt;.mp3 43 mins, 11mb&lt;/a&gt;) .&amp;nbsp; We&amp;nbsp;also &amp;nbsp;invite &lt;a href="http://eirepreneur.blogs.com/"&gt;James Corbett&lt;/a&gt;, who&amp;#39;s been doing a great deal with Readings Lists and Feed Grazing,&amp;nbsp; but unfortunately&amp;nbsp;could not&amp;nbsp;join us.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve been following Danny Ayers&amp;#39; blog (&lt;a href="http://dannyayers.com/"&gt;Raw&lt;/a&gt;) for some time. &lt;a href="http://dannyayers.com/misc/about/biog.htm"&gt;Danny is&lt;/a&gt; a Semantic Web developer and technical author and co-author of &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0764579169/104-1308769-7783907?n=283155"&gt;Beginning RSS and ATOM Programming&lt;/a&gt; (which you&amp;#39;ll find at practically every bookstore that has a Computers / Software section). We touched on the Semantic Web in the podcast.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://darwinianweb.com/bio.html"&gt;Adam Green&lt;/a&gt; started programming in 1980, is co-founder and CTO at Andover.Net (later &lt;a href="http://news.com.com/Andover.Net+deal+makes+some+wealthy,+others+disappointed/2100-1001_3-236485.html"&gt;acquired by VA Linux&lt;/a&gt; in 2000 - hey Adam, buy me a beer...;-) and now a full time technical blogger at &lt;a href="http://darwinianweb.com/"&gt;Darwinian Web&lt;/a&gt;. Thanks to Danny and Adam for their time today.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As usual, notes and links to related stuff below. Enjoy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reading Lists (OPML) podcast : Danny Ayers and Adam Green with Joshua Porter and Alex Barnett&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;download (&lt;a href="http://alexbarnett.audioblog.com/deluge/e88ce6a2-9875-5013-dd4a-c387f9a68f36.mp3"&gt;.mp3 43 mins, 11mb&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;.Notes:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;What are &lt;a href="http://www.reallysimplesyndication.com/2005/10/13"&gt;Reading Lists&lt;/a&gt;? &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why are we getting excited about Reading Lists (04:23) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://darwinianweb.com/archive/2006/238.html"&gt;Dynamic Reading Lists&lt;/a&gt; (06:50) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://eirepreneur.blogs.com/eirepreneur/2006/02/how_feed_grazin.html"&gt;Feed Grazing&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://eirepreneur.blogs.com/eirepreneur/2006/02/a_river_of_feed.html"&gt;River of Feeds model&lt;/a&gt; (08:30) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Danny on OPML - here &lt;a href="http://dannyayers.com/archives/2006/02/06/grazing/"&gt;under false pretences&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://dannyayers.com/archives/2006/02/10/syndication-and-stuff/"&gt;Feed Readers as Data Browsers&lt;/a&gt; (12;20) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/dynamic-reading-lists/"&gt;Dynamic Reading Lists&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/feed_grazers_an.php"&gt;Feed Grazing&lt;/a&gt; based on &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2006/01/11/511690.aspx"&gt;Attention data&lt;/a&gt; - Attention intersection has to come soon (14:15) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.darwinianweb.com/archive/2006/247.html"&gt;Dynamic Reading Lists&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/feed_grazers_an.php"&gt;Grazing Lists&lt;/a&gt; are the same thing (but different) (16:35) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Hierarchies, &lt;a href="http://dannyayers.com/archives/2006/02/10/feedlists-in-rdf/"&gt;feed lists in RDF&lt;/a&gt; and the Semantic Web (Let&amp;#39;s re-invent Gopher!) (18:50) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/11/25/497087.aspx"&gt;OPML Sampling&lt;/a&gt;: J Wynia&amp;#39;s &lt;a href="http://www.wynia.org/experiments/opmlsampler/"&gt;OPML Sampler&lt;/a&gt; (23:30) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Reading Lists as programmed content by others - &lt;a href="http://toptensources.com/TopTenSources/Home.aspx"&gt;Top 10 Sources&lt;/a&gt; (25:00??) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dynamic Reading Lists as Attention-based recommendation system (27:30) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Web as a data web, &lt;a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/"&gt;Semantic Web&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;RSS readers/aggregators as &lt;a href="http://dannyayers.com/archives/2006/02/12/out-of-eden-possible-implementation-architecture"&gt;Semantic Data Web browser (SPARQL / RDF)&lt;/a&gt; (33:00) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;OPML, RSS, Reading Lists and simplicity (35:30) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Where&amp;#39;s the &lt;a href="http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/blog/4"&gt;Semantic Web&lt;/a&gt; Demo? (37:30) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Summing up (41:00) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bonus links: &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/10/18/482515.aspx"&gt;It&amp;#39;s going to be a big year for OPML &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href="http://dannyayers.com/archives/2005/12/03/prediction/"&gt;It&amp;#39;s going to be a big year for HTML&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;End (45:30)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;(I didn&amp;#39;t cut the bit at the end of the session as I got a chance to ask Danny about Italy and Derbyshire - these two places rarely mentioned in the same sentence so I thought I&amp;#39;d keep for posterity ;-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Update: Joshua &lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/reading-lists-podcast/"&gt;has blogged it&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Tags:&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/RSS" rel="tag"&gt;RSS&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/OPML"&gt;OPML&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/readinglists" rel="tag"&gt;Reading Lists&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Semantic-Web" rel="tag"&gt;Semantic Web&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/RDF" rel="tag"&gt;RDF&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attention" rel="tag"&gt;Attention&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/web+2.0" rel="tag"&gt;Web 2.0&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/podcast"&gt;podcast&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/web" rel="tag"&gt;web&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/tech"&gt;tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=254" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Attention/default.aspx">Attention</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/OPML/default.aspx">OPML</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/podcast/default.aspx">podcast</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/RDF/default.aspx">RDF</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/readinglists/default.aspx">readinglists</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/RSS/default.aspx">RSS</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/semanticweb/default.aspx">semanticweb</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Web/default.aspx">Web</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Web+2.0/default.aspx">Web 2.0</category></item><item><title>Attention Podcast with Joshua Porter</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2005/11/26/Attention-Podcast-with-Joshua-Porter.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:05:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:261</guid><dc:creator>admin</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=261</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2005/11/26/Attention-Podcast-with-Joshua-Porter.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;This is a two part podcast with &lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/about"&gt;Joshua Porter&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.extremepodcasting.com/podcasts/joshua_porter_alex_barnett_attention_part1.mp3"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Part 1: 43mb, 45min&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.extremepodcasting.com/podcasts/joshua_porter_alex_barnett_attention_part2.mp3"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Part 2: .46mb, 48min&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Joshua is a little faint to hear at first, gets a bit better later though, sorry about this.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Part 1 Notes and Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Turkey, &lt;a href="http://black-friday-(shopping).borgfind.com/"&gt;Black Fridays&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_Day"&gt;Boxing Days&lt;/a&gt; (intro)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.wynia.org/experiments/opmlsampler/"&gt;J Wynia&amp;#39;s&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/web2explorer/index.php?p=67"&gt;OPML Sampling&lt;/a&gt;, attention engine (01:35)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/moving-from-average-value-to-personal-value-in-searchnews/http:/www.techcrunch.com/2005/10/12/memeorandum-is-changing-the-web/"&gt;Memeorandum, the echo chamber&lt;/a&gt; (04:45)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://weblog.burningbird.net/2005/10/28/the-testosterone-meme/"&gt;Shelly is a she&lt;/a&gt; (!) (05:40)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://talk.talis.com/archives/2005/11/ed_batista_on_a.html"&gt;Ed Batista on Attention Trust&lt;/a&gt; (07:15)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Attention Trust and Root vault (09:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Why do we need a third party, why do we need attention brokers? (11:04)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.scripting.com/2005/11/24.html#When:1:34:09PM"&gt;Dave Winer&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://dannyayers.com/archives/2005/11/24/tools/"&gt;Danny Ayres&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.dltq.org/?p=747#comment-1093"&gt;Raymond Kristiansen,&lt;/a&gt; Attention.xml, &lt;a href="http://eirepreneur.blogs.com/eirepreneur/2005/11/why_opml_is_win.html"&gt;OPML&lt;/a&gt;, Attention RDF, microformats (14:40)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://attentiontech.podshow.com/?p=20"&gt;Nick Bradbury, Steve Gillmor, AttentionTech podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;All those &lt;a href="http://www.scottgatz.com/blog/2005/10/08/reaction-to-our-research/"&gt;RSS users and they don&amp;#39;t know it&lt;/a&gt; (18:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/11/25/497087.aspx"&gt;OPML, attention data sharing&lt;/a&gt; (21:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;What did you learn about &lt;a href="http://www.thelongtail.com/the_long_tail/2005/11/standing_out_in.html"&gt;Chris now you have his some of his attention data&lt;/a&gt;? (23:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Self-reported attention (27:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/11/24/496636.aspx"&gt;OPML wishlist&lt;/a&gt;: it&amp;#39;s &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; wishlist (30:20)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Mortgage brokers is making money from &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; attention - attention brokers (32:55)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Why I don&amp;#39;t like &lt;a href="http://www.attentiontrust.org/services"&gt;Attention recorder&lt;/a&gt; (37:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;My wife is an attention data nightmare (40:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;empowering customers (41:30)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Attention, Buying a Car, and Control - &lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/attention-buying-a-car-and-control/"&gt;why am i not in control&lt;/a&gt; - ? (43:20)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;End of part 1 (45:10)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Part 2 Notes and Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;We&amp;#39;ve already got some feedback to the first half/part of the podcast. In particular I wanted to highlight &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://dannyayers.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Danny Ayres&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; who took the time to &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/11/26/497133.aspx#497197"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;post this comment&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;. Thanks Danny, we should keep talking.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;As I listened to the recordings to make the notes below, I came realise two things: Firstly, how much work is still ahead of us to work it out in this attention management space (but it will be fun - and of course, it&amp;#39;ll never end....). Second, it appears that a non-trivial convergence is occurring, one that &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;James Governor&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; recognises and &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/11/24/496769.aspx#496949"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;describes as a&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; &lt;em&gt;&amp;quot;quadrangulation of SSE, attention, RSS and OPML that creates the opportunity, no?&amp;quot;&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;In the meantime, &lt;a href="http://www.scripting.com/2005/11/26.html#When:5:19:11PM"&gt;Dave has pointed&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/11/26/my-content-my-readers-my-numbers-damnit/"&gt;Jeff Jarvis&amp;#39; demand to Yahoo!&lt;/a&gt; that they hand over his attention data (RSS)!&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Back to the podcast: again, Joshua&amp;#39;s voice&amp;nbsp;is relatively faint (compared to mine)&amp;nbsp;but it is audible - sorry about this.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Notes and links below.&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Anonymous e-commerce (intro)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.identity20.com/media/WEB2_2005/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Identity 2.0&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, (02:10)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/microsoft-trust-attention/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Why should I trust Microsoft with my attention metadata?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (04:10)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.identityblog.com/2005/11/05.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Kim Cameron, InfoCard&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, and &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.identityblog.com/2005/10/23.html#a359"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Identity Metasystem&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (07:56)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Anonymous personalization (10:45)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;What social model fits here? (14:40)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://mp.blogs.com/mp/2005/11/s_28.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;My OPML as my attention data&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (18:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.harrahs.com/total_rewards/overview/overview.jsp"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Have you been to a casino lately?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (20:05)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Solove&amp;#39;s &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0814798462/102-6864361-8721707"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;The Digital Person&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, Orwellian futures, little brothers, and &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0805210407/102-6864361-8721707?v=glance&amp;amp;n=283155&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;v=glance"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Kafka&amp;#39;s The Trial&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (24:30)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.minorityreport.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Minority Report&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.econometa.com/archives/19"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;The iris as a cookie&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (28:08)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Will we have OPML spiders here soon? (29:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://nick.typepad.com/blog/2005/11/an_attention_na.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Feed ranking in readers&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, OPML as expression of your attention, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.feedblog.org/2005/11/tailrankattenti.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Attention engines&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (30:32)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.opml.org/thisislisa/2005/11/26#omgItWorkedItWorkedIGotItToWork"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Users will drive the future of OPML&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (31:30)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Google Base, user-defined schemas, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/web2con-the-value-of-structured-blogging/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;structured blogging&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (33:25)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;user hacks, emergent standards, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/10/07/478256.aspx"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;emergent tags&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (36:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.adaptivepath.com/publications/essays/archives/000385.php"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Ajax&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.aflax.org/wordpress/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Aflax&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/2005/05/13.html#a1232"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Flash-based data visualization&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (40:45)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://bokardo.com/archives/podcast-of-web-20-talk/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Hacking is really the only way to innovate&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;,&amp;nbsp; 45:00&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;End (47:50)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Tags: &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attention"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;A&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attention" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;ttention&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/OPML" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;OPML&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/RSS" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;RSS&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attentiontrust" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;attentiontrust&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attention.xml" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;attention.xml&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="+0"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/podcast"&gt;podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=261" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Attention/default.aspx">Attention</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/microformats/default.aspx">microformats</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/mydata/default.aspx">mydata</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/OPML/default.aspx">OPML</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/podcast/default.aspx">podcast</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/privacy/default.aspx">privacy</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/RSS/default.aspx">RSS</category></item><item><title>OPML and Attention Data and Tailrank Podcast with Kevin Burton </title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2005/11/12/OPML-and-Attention-Data-and-Tailrank-Podcast-with-Kevin-Burton-.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:02:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:260</guid><dc:creator>admin</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=260</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2005/11/12/OPML-and-Attention-Data-and-Tailrank-Podcast-with-Kevin-Burton-.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;div class="postcontent"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Although we met briefly last week, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.feedblog.org/2005/07/about_feed_blog.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Kevin Burton&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; and I didn&amp;#39;t manage to get enough time to discuss some of the things on our mind at the time, so we got a Skype call together and posted it &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://download.tailrank.com/kevin_burton_alex_barnett.mp3"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;as a podcast (.mp3, 42mb)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;We focused the discussion around what he calls Meme Engines and I call Attention Engines, Tailrank (Kevin&amp;#39;s latest project), OPML, RSS and Attention.xml (see notes below).&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Kevin knows what he&amp;#39;s talking about in this space - a veteran of the RSS space, Kevin authored the &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://newsmonster.org/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;NewsMonster&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; RSS aggregator and co-Founder of &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://rojo.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Rojo Networks&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Notes: Stuff we talked about (here&amp;#39;s &lt;a href="http://www.feedblog.org/2005/11/tailrankattenti.html"&gt;Kevin&amp;#39;s take on the chat&lt;/a&gt;):&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tailrank.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Tailrank&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2005/11/12/your-attention-please/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Mathew Gertner&amp;#39;s post &amp;#39;Your Attention, Please&amp;#39;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/11/08/490628.aspx"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;OPML as Attention.xml&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.feedblog.org/2005/11/new_space_meme_.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Meme Engines&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; and &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/11/08/490700.aspx"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Attention Engines&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.attentiontrust.org/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;AttentionTrust.org&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://attentiontrust.org/services"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Attention Recorder&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://root.net/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Root.net&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, and &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://mashable.com/2005/11/11/attention-changes-everything/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;what it means&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://klever.edublogs.org/2005/11/02/attention-management/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Attention data&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://majestic.typepad.com/seth/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;its ownership and sharing&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&amp;#39;Perspectives&amp;#39; - a way seeing the world through someone else&amp;#39;s Attention data on Tailrank. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://tailrank.com/posts/recommended/depth/local/handle/alexbarnett/hours/12"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Here&amp;#39;s mine&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;(12 hours, Local, Recommended)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;This diagram I sent Kevin as a point of discussion for the chat:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&lt;img height="450" src="http://storage.msn.com/x1pcejuJ95fKvS3SmwGpxXVlZyxZbAKz8N-Ao8sSsS_VN3bZh0dURpx7fxAKJEC5O2_HJMQ0-0keHEnIRdM9a03R_41C7N0ioodyXZUhcLrODNN8aaFHAHxjEnouRRZQhWXSE4Txe-_Ar5FfnlbhcCgCg" width="600" /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Download the &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://download.tailrank.com/kevin_burton_alex_barnett.mp3"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;podcast (.mp3, 42mb)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Tags: &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attention" rel="tag"&gt;attention&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attentiontrust" rel="tag"&gt;attentiontrust&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attention.xml" rel="tag"&gt;attention.xml&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/opml" rel="tag"&gt;opml&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/rss" rel="tag"&gt;rss&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Update: &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2005/11/13/no-gym-5-kevin-burton-and-alex-barnett-podcast-about-attention/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Robert Scoble is listening in&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=260" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Attention/default.aspx">Attention</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/OPML/default.aspx">OPML</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/podcast/default.aspx">podcast</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/RSS/default.aspx">RSS</category></item><item><title>Attention Podcast: Nick Bradury and Kevin Burton</title><link>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2005/01/22/Attention-podcast_3A00_-Nick-Bradury-and-Kevin-Burton.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:47:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0a97a1d1-9921-457b-8bd7-ce5530d7bd45:257</guid><dc:creator>admin</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:comment xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://alexbarnett.net/blog/commentapi.aspx?PostID=257</wfw:comment><comments>http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/2005/01/22/Attention-podcast_3A00_-Nick-Bradury-and-Kevin-Burton.aspx#comments</comments><description>I asked two of the RSS industry&amp;#39;s leading lights to join me for a call and share their perspective on the question of where &lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/articles/510483.aspx"&gt;Attention&lt;/a&gt; is going with respect to RSS feedreaders and aggregators: &lt;a href="http://nick.typepad.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Nick Bradbury&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; creator &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bradsoft.com/feeddemon/index.asp"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;FeedDemon&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, part of &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://newsgator.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Newsgator&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (Nick also developed &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Homesite&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;- sold to Macromedia -&amp;nbsp;and &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bradsoft.com/topstyle/index.asp"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Topstyle&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;) and &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.feedblog.org/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Kevin Burton&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; of &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://tailrank.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Tailrank&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (also co-founder &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.rojo.com/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Rojo&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;).&lt;/font&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Many thanks to Nick and Kevin for their time, it was great to get their views on the topic of Attention.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Bottom line? Attention is happening.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;The &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://alexbarnett.audioblog.com/download/5bb4c0f9-db76-ec7c-68b3-b8a76b881576.mp3"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;podcast (.mp3, 46 min, 11mb)&amp;nbsp;can be downloaded&amp;nbsp;here&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, show notes below.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Intro What problem is Attention trying to solve in the feedreader / aggregator space? (01:20)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;RSS: from &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.rss-specifications.com/benfits-to-rss-feeds.htm"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;information consumption efficiency&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; to &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://glinden.blogspot.com/2004/11/rss-information-overload.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;information overload&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;. (03:40)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Attention can tell what&amp;#39;s &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Gillmor/?p=189"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; important &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;to &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_next_big_thing/2006/01/attention_pleas.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;you&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (more &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://dannyayers.com/archives/2005/12/05/gestures/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;gestures&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;) (05:45)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;The &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2006/01/08/510627.aspx"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;portability of Attention data&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (07:25)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Turning &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=2187"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;OPML into an interchange format&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (08:10)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;On &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://nick.typepad.com/blog/2005/10/reading_lists_f.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;OPML Reading Lists&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (09:25)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;How do we &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://blog.thylmann.net/2006/01/alex_on_attenti.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;define&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; and &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=12132_0_3_0_C"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;standardize on Attention data&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;? (10:40)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Feed and item ranking data, vote rank (attention.xml) within OPML (14:08)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;adding an &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://nick.typepad.com/blog/2005/11/an_attention_na.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Attention namespace to OPML&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; and Attention APIs (17:05)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Beyond the feed level (21:00)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;interaction rank (23:10)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Attention data beyond the clickstream (24:50)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.attentiontrust.org/blog"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Attention Trust&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; plug in and &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Gillmor/index.php?p=74"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;my attention data&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (27:50)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/18/1427212"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Firefox ping attribute&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (31:50)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;The &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/06/01/424099.aspx"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;usability of RSS&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (35:30)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;What are the next steps for Attention to make progress? (40:10)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://nick.typepad.com/blog/2006/01/ann_feeddemon_2.html"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;FeedDemon 2.0 beta&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (44:15)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/01/17/tailrank-is-looking-good/"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Tailrank 1.0&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt; (46:20)&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;End (49:28)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;-&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Related: &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/articles/510483.aspx"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;My Attention writings&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;Tags: &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attention"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;A&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attention" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;ttention&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/OPML" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;OPML&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/RSS" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;RSS&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attentiontrust" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;attentiontrust&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/attention.xml" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;font face="Arial" size="2"&gt;attention.xml&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="Arial"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;, &lt;font size="+0"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/podcast"&gt;podcast&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/web+2.0" rel="tag"&gt;web 2.0&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/aggbug.aspx?PostID=257" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Attention/default.aspx">Attention</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/OPML/default.aspx">OPML</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/podcast/default.aspx">podcast</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/RSS/default.aspx">RSS</category><category domain="http://alexbarnett.net/blog/archive/tags/Web+2.0/default.aspx">Web 2.0</category></item></channel></rss>